Removing an old, damaged closet flange is the most critical—and often most challenging—step in repairing a wobbly or leaking toilet. A closet flange (or toilet flange) is the pipe fitting that connects your toilet to the drainpipe and secures it to the floor. Over time, flanges can crack, corrode, or become damaged, necessitating a full replacement.
This guide is dedicated entirely to the demolition and removal process, providing the expert techniques and troubleshooting tips you need to tackle this messy but manageable job. Successfully removing the old flange without damaging your drainpipe sets the stage for a perfect installation, which we cover in our comprehensive guide on how to replace a closet flange.
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Pre-Removal Checklist: Diagnosing Your Flange Type and Problem
Before you swing a hammer, it’s crucial to know what you’re dealing with. The removal method depends entirely on the material of your flange and drainpipe.
Common Signs You Need to Remove the Flange:
- A rocking or loose toilet
- Water leaks around the base after flushing
- Visible cracks in the flange
- Broken or rusted-off bolt slots
- Severe corrosion on metal flanges
Identifying Your Flange and Pipe Material:
- PVC/ABS Plastic: White or black plastic. The most common in modern homes. Often solvent-welded (glued) to the pipe.
- Cast Iron: Heavy, black, and often rusty. May be a hub-and-spigot type with lead and oakum seal, or a newer no-hub type with a rubber gasket and clamp.
- Lead Bend: A soft, dull gray pipe that is often hammered (caulked) into a cast iron hub. Common in older homes.
- Brass: Less common, yellow-metallic, and can corrode with a green patina.
Table: Closet Flange Types and Removal Challenges
Flange Material | Pipe Connection Method | Primary Removal Challenge |
---|---|---|
PVC / ABS Plastic | Solvent weld (glued) | Cutting it out without damaging the main drainpipe. |
Cast Iron (Hub) | Lead & Oakum seal | Chiseling out the packed lead and oakum from the hub. |
Cast Iron (No-Hub) | Rubber gasket & clamp | Loosening the rusted clamp or cutting the flange. |
Lead Bend | Poured into Cast Iron Hub | The lead pipe itself is the flange; often requires cutting. |
Brass | Screws & sometimes solder | Dealing with corroded screws and potentially soldered joints. |
Essential Tools and Safety Gear for Flange Removal
Having the right tools is half the battle. Trying to remove a flange without them can lead to damaged pipes and a much bigger repair bill.
Safety First:
- Safety Glasses: Debris and metal shards will fly.
- Work Gloves: Protect your hands from sharp edges.
- Dust Mask: Especially important when cutting or grinding.
- Knee Pads: You’ll be spending a lot of time on the floor.
Demolition Toolbox:
- Basic Tools: Screwdriver, adjustable wrench, putty knife.
- Toilet Removal: Channel-lock pliers for bolt nuts.
Cutting Tools:
- Hacksaw or Reciprocating Saw (Sawzall): Ideal for cutting PVC and small metal parts.
- Oscillating Multi-Tool: Perfect for flush-cutting in tight spaces.
- Inside Pipe Cutter: A specialized tool for cutting PVC flanges from the inside.
- Cold Chisel and Mini-Sledgehammer: Essential for breaking cast iron and chiseling lead.
Prying & Gripping:
- Pry Bar: For lifting stubborn flanges.
- Locking Pliers (Vise-Grips): To grip broken bolt stubs.

Step-by-Step Guide: How to Remove a Closet Flange
Step 1: Toilet Removal and Initial Cleanup
- Turn off the water supply and flush the toilet to empty it.
- Disconnect the supply line and remove the tank lid.
- Unscrew the nuts from the closet bolts at the base.
- Rock the toilet gently to break the wax seal and lift it straight off. Place it on old towels or cardboard.
- Stuff a large rag into the drainpipe immediately to prevent sewer gases from entering and tools/debris from falling in.
- Scrape the old wax ring residue from the floor and the pipe opening.
Step 2: Remove all Screws and Bolts
- Locate the screws that secure the flange to the subfloor. These are often rusted or stripped.
- Use a screwdriver with a good grip. If stripped, use a screw extractor bit or locking pliers to turn them.
- If the closet bolts are spinning, hold the nut underneath the flange with one wrench while loosening the top nut with another.
Step 3: Flange-Specific Removal Techniques
A. How to Remove a Glued PVC/ABS Flange
This is the most common scenario. Because the flange is chemically welded to the pipe, you cannot unscrew it; you must cut it out.
Method 1: Using an Inside Pipe Cutter
This is the cleanest and safest method. The tool has a drill-like head with a cutting blade that expands. You insert it into the pipe, tighten it, and rotate it to score a clean cut around the inside of the flange’s hub, leaving the main pipe perfectly intact.
Method 2: Using a Multi-Tool or Hacksaw
If you don’t have an inside cutter, use an oscillating multi-tool with a carbide-grit blade or a hacksaw blade.
- Carefully make several vertical cuts through the body of the flange, being sure not to cut into the main drainpipe beneath it.
- Once you have a few deep cuts, you can use a flathead screwdriver and a hammer to tap out the small sections of the flange one by one.
- After the top ring is removed, use a chisel to carefully clean the remaining hub stub from the pipe.
B. How to Remove a Cast Iron Flange
This is the most physically demanding removal job.
For a No-Hub Flange: Locate the band clamp. Try to loosen the screw. If it’s rusted solid, use a reciprocating saw with a metal-cutting blade to cut through the band and/or the flange itself.
For a Hub and Spigot Flange:
- Drill out the lead: Use a drill with a metal bit to drill several holes into the lead seal inside the hub. This weakens it.
- Chisel out the lead and oakum: Use a cold chisel and a small sledgehammer. Position the chisel at the inside edge of the lead and tap sharply to “peel” it out of the hub. Once the lead is removed, you will see a fibrous rope called oakum; remove this with a screwdriver or pick.
- Once the sealant is gone, the old cast iron flange should be loose and can be lifted out.
C. How to Remove a Lead Bend Flange
In many old homes, the flange is simply the bent-over end of a lead waste pipe.
- Using a hacksaw or reciprocating saw, cut the lead pipe vertically, just above the bend and below the floor.
- You can then often peel the old lead away from the cast iron hub. The entire lead bend will likely need to be replaced by a professional, or you can use a modern Twist-N-Set replacement flange that fits inside the existing hub.
Step 4: Clean the Drainpipe and Prep for New Flange
- Once the old flange is completely removed, thoroughly clean the outside of the drainpipe and the inside of the hub (if applicable).
- For PVC, ensure the pipe end is smooth and free of old glue and plastic fragments.
- For cast iron hubs, ensure all old lead and oakum is removed for a proper seal with the new flange.
Pro Tips and Troubleshooting Common Problems
- Stripped Screws: Use a screw extractor kit or simply cut the head off the screw with a multi-tool.
- Spinning Bolts: Hold the nut on the underside with a wrench. If you can’t access it, cut the bolt off with a hacksaw.
- A Flange Glued to the Top of the Pipe: If the old flange was a “spigot” type glued on the outside of the pipe, you must carefully chisel or cut it away. An oscillating multi-tool is perfect for this.
- Don’t Rush: Forcing things can crack the main drainpipe, turning a simple DIY project into a major plumbing repair. Be patient and methodical.
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)
1. Can I remove a closet flange without removing the toilet?
No. The toilet must be completely removed to access the flange, the bolts, and the screws that secure it to the floor.
2. What is the easiest type of closet flange to remove?
A PVC flange that is only screwed to the floor (not glued to the pipe) is the easiest. You simply remove the screws and lift it out. However, most modern PVC flanges are glued, requiring cutting.
3. The previous installer used concrete to set the flange. How do I remove it?
Use a hammer drill with a chisel bit or a cold chisel and mini-sledge to break the concrete away from the flange. Work slowly to avoid damaging the pipe.
4. I’m afraid I’ll damage the drainpipe. What should I do?
An inside pipe cutter is your best friend here. It is specifically designed to remove glued-in PVC flanges without damaging the pipe. It’s a worthwhile investment for this job.
5. My cast iron flange is completely rusted and won’t budge. What now?
If chiseling isn’t working, you may need to cut it out. Use an angle grinder with a metal-cutting wheel or a reciprocating saw to carefully slice the flange into pieces that can be removed. Always wear full-face protection for this.
6. After removal, can I just use a repair ring instead of a new flange?
Yes, but only if the bottom portion of the flange (the part in the pipe) is still intact and the drainpipe is in good condition. A repair ring bolts onto the old flange. If the old flange is too damaged, a full replacement is necessary.
7. The pipe is damaged during removal. What are my options?
A small chip in a PVC pipe can sometimes be repaired. A significant crack or break will require cutting out the damaged section and installing a new piece of pipe with couplings. This may be a job for a professional plumber.
Conclusion: Ready for a Fresh Start
Successfully removing an old, damaged closet flange is a tough but rewarding DIY achievement. By correctly identifying your flange type, using the right tools, and applying patient, deliberate force, you can conquer this demolition phase. You have now cleared the way for a brand-new, stable foundation for your toilet.
With the old flange out and the area cleaned up, you’re ready to move on to the installation phase. For detailed instructions on selecting the right new flange and installing it correctly for a leak-free seal, continue with our complete guide on Flange and fittings.
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